This advice sounds reasonable, but it really isnt. The comments below have not been moderated. Lucky escape: A meteorologist from The Weather Channel was injured after his car (seen here) was thrown 200 yards by the storm, Waterway: A man uses a jetski to travel between his home and Osage City, after Missouri was affected by severe flooding, Storm damage: Navy veterans inspect the washed out road where they pulled a woman and her daughter to safety after their car flooded, A family in El Reno, Oklahoma inspect what is left of their home after Friday night's tornadoes battered the local area, Rain: Parts of Oklahoma City experience extreme flooding after multiple tornadoes passed through Central Oklahoma, For more videos, please go to the Long Center Austin. The tornado caught up with him and his crew and ended them. Certainly broadcast public service announcements discussing the danger of chasing storms. In this country, if a cyclone alert is issued, all roads are closed. The chaser can be quite the problem but yet quite the provider of care in a situation where the emergency scene can span a few hundred yards to over a hundred miles. Thacker, as you might recall, wrote a highly biased article with Charles, Every timeyou follow the motion of a spacecraft, moon, planet or other object through the Solar System, you're putting the theory of gravity to the test. Chaser traffic, maybe. They eventually revised this policy I'm assuming based on what has happened to folks in their stores during a bad storm. Also, their data helps us to better understand the dynamics of what happens in tornadoes which can help make safer structures. For the record, an "enigmatic" lack of shelter in Oklahoma has to do with cost. Trump is trying to appoint him to be assistant administrator for air and radiation. With the regulation that you are proposing, what would you suggest to someone who doesn't have the tools or money to contribute their chasing to science, but simply would like to witness the beauty of mother nature, and is educated enough on storms to make smart decisions to not pose a danger to others? Now they've got cameras that take a picture showing the red light, showing your car going through the red light, and showing the license plate on your car going through the red light. What's eerie is that the subvortex becomes stationary on the road, like it chose to stop right on top of them. >>> I support this 100%. It needs to be taught FREE for the public as well. Their car was found upright in a ditch with its wheels blown off and the engine a quarter-mile away. Officials added five victims on Monday to the confirmed list of dead from the tornadoes and from storms that caused severe flooding: three adults and two unidentified children, the medical examiner's office said. 'The trees were leaning literally to the ground. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. 'I'm not sure why people do that sort of stuff, but it is very dangerous. I am thinking these scientists were blaming the storm track far more than the traffic. News casters were telling people in the direct line of the tornado do drive south. But then the tornado made a turn and headed straight for the south that people were being told to drive to. This included CNN. Which Storm Chaser Killed Himself - BikeHike The Last Chase: Remembering Tim Samaras | National Geographic Terrible things they are! Timothy Michael Samaras (November 12, 1957 May 31, 2013) was an American engineer and storm chaser best known for his field research on tornadoes and time on the Discovery Channel show, Storm Chasers. This report indicates he's more right than he could have known. Then he yelled "get your ass back down there, boy!" Which travel companies promote harmful wildlife activities? Let me post a reply to many of the above comments and suggestions. It is not inforceable. It may be only a matter of seconds before you have time to find shelter. Samaras attended Lasley Elementary and O'Connell Junior High in Lakewood. It would have taken out everything. Pay special attention to what the weather forecaster says starting at 4:35: if you can drive south, anywhere around Whitewater Bay, State Fair Park, the Ballpark, downtown Oklahoma City, southwest Integres, US Grant District, Rose State college, Midwest City regional medical center, Midwest City, and Parts of Del city, you need to drive south now. (approximate transcript). Which, I think, was one of Greg's original points. Tim Samaras' Death - Cause and Date Born (Birthday) Nov 12, 1957 Death Date May 31, 2013 Age of Death 55 years Cause of Death N/A Place of Death May 31, 2013 Profession Meteorologist The meteorologist Tim Samaras died at the age of 55. The other, which according to professional storm chasers is a problem, is the increased number of people crowding roads (including but by no means limited to) highways in or near the paths of storms. I know cyclones are slightly more predictable than tornados (but much less predictable than hurricanes) they also have the habit of suddenly randomly changing direction. Also we MUST push for adqueate shelters. Are they going to fire that weather reporter who told listeners to drive into the tornado? Probably not. I would like to point out that Mike Morgan, the meterologist at KFOR, did what he's done successfully many times since May 24, 2011. I'm not sure about your claim that there was not a traffic jam, that conflicts with everything else I've heard. Storm Chasers Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras and Carl Young Killed in Scientists just confirmed a 30-foot void first detected inside the monument years ago. 'The fact that it could happen to someone like Tim, it could happen to me, it could happen to anybody. Dallas' independent source of This is nothing new, and this really has nothing to do with someone on television telling them to do so. 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The new year once started in Marchhere's why, Jimmy Carter on the greatest challenges of the 21st century, This ancient Greek warship ruled the Mediterranean, How cosmic rays helped find a tunnel in Egypt's Great Pyramid, Who first rode horses? This was one of the highways that really did have a traffic jam thanks to the TV people who encouraged locals to attempt to flee in their cars. They did not discuss the details but I would suspect you would want a helmet that comes down to the jaw line, which sort of eliminates a lot of bicycle helmets, although likely the bike helmet is better than a bare head. Sheriff Cody Carpenter and a wildlife officer had been checking on houses that were in danger of being flooded. Despite the horrible fact that some two dozen people died in the Moore tornado last week, there were tens of thousands of people directly in that tornados path, hiding out in low interior rooms within their homes or other buildings, who survived. It wasn't what I would consider a traffic jam under normal circumstances, but when you have a tornado coming straight at you those seconds are important. But what I would really like to ask is this. People who chase storms need to back off a little bit. I dont think they realize how lucky El Reno was.. A Carrollton High School Claims Employee Gave Student Prescription Drugs, Rep. Nate Schatzline, Under Fire for 'Drag' Video, Accused of 'Doxxing' Keller ISD Mom, Another Carrollton Fentanyl Arrest and an On-Campus Overdose at R.L. 10th St. and Radio Rd. None of them contributes to the scientific research and experimentation going on. The worry soon turned to flash flooding and floodwaters topped four feet in Oklahoma City on Saturday morning. When she emerged from the freezer her car windshield had been shattered by the hail. Emergency officials reported that numerous injuries occurred in the area along I-40, and said the storm's victims were mostly in cars. This is a free country, or at least we want it to be a free country, and being able to freely travel on public thoroughfares is part of that. Tens of thousands were without power, and only eight minor injuries were reported. He turned and saw at me peering up from the basement steps! I do find it sad that that few if any of your statements regarding how the Twistex team was killed was accurate. Note the story of the HS football team that was viewing videos when the storm approached and the coach said put on your helmet. I agree, we only need laws if we need laws. "We're trying to collect as many observations as possible, both from outside and from the inside. Tim Samaras, 55, along with his son, Paul Samaras, 24, and Carl Young, 45, died on Friday in El Reno after a tornado that packed winds of up to 165 mph picked up their car and threw it,. That might be preferable because making a new law to address particularistic new circumstances that are already covered by existing law, regulation, and best practice is probably a bad thing. Samaras submitted this footage to National Geographic in the weeks leading up to his death,. Keith: I know, I hate words! Were looking at extremes in the rare EF5 category. Because of your action, your car has become a very large and dangerous projectile. How three storm chasers died, and what to do about it What if we could clean them out? Contrast that, as bad as it was, with Dan Robinson's video from the El Reno, OK tornado that killed Tim Samaras, his son Paul and his long-time chase partner Carl Young. Del City has 21,000 people in it. The US has several cities along hurricane prone coasts which are larger (including Houston, Miami, and New York). "He was a groundbreaker in terms of the kind of research he was doing on severe thunderstorms and tornadoes," Dr. Forbes said on The Weather Channel Sunday morning. Storm Chaser Tim Samaras: One Year After His Death, His - Adventure Renowned researcher and storm chaser Tim Samaras, 55, his son Paul Samaras, 24, and his chase partner Carl Young, 45, passed away after they were overtaken by the multiple-vortex tornado,. This is an . 'It was chaos Everybody was running for their lives,' Terri Black, who lives in Moore, said. Do not rely on others, including the T.V. However the generic advice makes a lot of sense. Take multiple pictures of vehicles "in the way" of emergency responders at tornado or other emergency sites. The scene was eerily like that from last week, when blackened skies generated a top-of-the-scale EF5 storm with 210 mph winds. 'It's not even close to anything like what we had last week,' Smith said. Until proven otherwise, I will assume that the special category of people known as Professional Storm Chasers like Tim Samaras and his crew as well as Reed Timmer, and others, are risking their own lives to make observations and collect data that help us understand tornadoes better, to make better predictions about storm behavior, and thus to make better predictions about unfolding storms. More than 210,000 customers lost electricity in the areas affected by the storm. Such a law or regulation could be more general, specifying that police have the authority to direct people generally in relation to emergency disaster zones that have not happened yet. Making a law which makes it illegal to chase storms will make it practically impossible to get enough data to understand tornadoes. Where victims found after monster May 31 tornado - KFOR.com October 31st 2015, 7:11 PM PDT. 'The car was probably about 60 to 70 per cent of its normal size because it had been pushed and mauled and compacted as it was tumbling down the road. Samaras shows probes he uses to measure. Long-time friend of Tim Samaras, meteorologist Mike Nelson, told the Denver Channel: 'I have known Tim for over 20 years, he was the most brilliant and most careful severe weather researcher of them all. As of this writing, the death toll stands at 13 with another 6 (though Ive also heard 7) people still missing. I was in Warr Acres, just next to Bethany in OKC on Fri. May 31. Regarding the rest of your comment. Absolutely educate people on the safest way to ride out a storm. Tim Samaras, 55, along with his son, Paul Samaras, 24, and Carl Young, . Pete, Born: I think this is a difficult question. The rest of the report deals with how we quantify El Reno, which surprisingly can be pretty subjective. He also starred in the Discovery Channel series Storm Chasers. He almost certainly didn't know that the rain-shrouded vortex was hooking toward him, to the northeast, and that he had entered its circulation. Shelters up the price of homes, making homes much less affordable for many people. I think that Tim Samaras knew what he was doing. This was the case with Mt. One of the first rules you hear about what to do in a tornado is "Do not try to outrun it." The interstate was shut down due to the storm, with multiple crashes and injuries. Joel Taylor Dies: What Is Stormchasers? - Peoplemag All rights reserved. Ironic how his own community of chasers would throw him to the wolves but won't put themselves in that category. In closing it should be important to note that Tim and crew did not get killed because of the traffic that was present on that day. He skipped out on chasing the massive tornado that flattened Moore, Okla., because it was too dangerous. There is a great irony to the deaths of the three storm chasers from Twistex. We all see our own causes as noble don't we? They were probably thinking, somebody should do something about this situation.". I dont think there has been a single case (correct me if im wrong) of external injury or property damage due to a chasers car getting picked up by a tornado. Tim Samaras sits with instrument probes he used as part of his TWISTEX field research program. #2. the storm went from a mile wide wedge to a 2.6 mile record breaking monster in an extremely rapid time, usually people 1 mile away from the storm would be safe or even 2 miles away but in this case it dropped on people 2 miles away, more so i don't believe it was a traffic jam as opposed to the rapid size increase and the sudden change in course. Don't create a law just to feel better because people died. Hard to know what to do. I remember Pa wearing this Civil Defense helmet and he was chirping on this big ol' walky talky! In reply to by Tom McDonald (not verified). Police have a hard enough time now dealing with emergencies, the last thing they have time to do is stop to write tickets. Storm chasing is definitely in the "Don't try this at home, kids!" In many cases, a law is unenforceable at face value, but when something goes wrong it suddenly becomes part of the equation. "Samaras was a respected tornado researcher and friend who brought to the field a unique portfolio of expertise in engineering, science, writing and videography," the center's statement said. But once your car is inside an F3 or F4 tornado, that is no longer your problem alone. Another thing I noticed that was looked over in this article was the unique conditions that were present at the time that Tim and his crew were killed by the storm. He deployed one of these in the path of an F4 tornado that destroyed the small town of Manchester, S.D., on June 24, 2003. Later analysis of the situation indicates that there was indeed a traffic jam enhanced risk for several storm chasers, caused by the ill advised comments from local media (as described below) but that this happened after Samaras and his crew were killed, in a different location, and that this happened to not cause any deaths. OKLAHOMA CITY The deadly tornado that struck near Oklahoma City late last week killing 18, including three storm chasers, had a record-breaking width of 2.6 miles and was the second top-of-the-scale EF5 twister to hit the area in less than two weeks, the National Weather Service reported Tuesday. Police believe the woman was driving an SUV near El Reno when the powerful twister flipped the vehicle over. In a tribute, Mr Samaras' brother Jim wrote on Facebook: 'Thank you to everyone for the condolences. They were caught off guard not by traffic, but by an extremely powerful and erratic multi vortex tornado that grew from a mile wide multivortex into a 2.5 miles in diameter behemoth as it also accelerated and turned north toward the ill fated chasers. You can also shop using Amazon Smile and though you pay nothing more we get a tiny something. Two and half miles has been the widely accepted dimension, but if you measure wind speeds, the tornado could have been anywhere from three to 4.5 miles across. Yes, Houston is a bigger city than OKC, and one of the freeway routes out of town takes you to Galveston, which is exactly the wrong way to go. (MORE: Tornado Hunt Team Takes Direct Hit by Tornado). 'Everyone acted differently in this storm, and as a result, it created an extremely dangerous situation,' said Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett. The majority of schools are built from concrete blocks that are not reinforced. We need sensors in place, in advance of the storms. And, I've argued that telling people that the safest thing to do is to get in their car and drive is wrong. I am hereby referring you and all readers to the comments. Why are you so quick to blame the TV and not the idiots living in the heart of tornado alley who chose to get in a car when they knew there were already tornadoes in the area? More than half of those were people who had been cut or pierced. According to his Discovery Channel biography, Young and Samaras tracked down over 125 tornadoes together. Anything else is just going to lead to panic like the panic that killed people on the 31st. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. The rain was coming down horizontally in front of my car. Officials in St. Charles County also reported that local schools suffered some damage. In a separate incident, Brandon Sullivan and Brett Wright captured heart stopping footage of their exploits getting too close to the powerful twister near Union City, in southwest Oklahoma City. Education may help, but first we need to educate Meteorologists in the media, the brilliant minds out there need to come up with a set of definitive standards on what to do and what not to do and hold the TV weather accountable, develop an educational program for the public, but most of all give people a place to go, public shelters or something for safety, if people have a shelter they more than likely wont get in their car in the first place. That is not my argument either, it is simply what all the experts say. Winds swept one vehicle with a crew from The Weather Channel off the road, tossed it 200 yards and flipped it into a field -- they escaped major injury. The men worked as a team and Tim Samaras had received 18 grants from the National Geographic Society for work in the field. "They put themselves in harm's way so that they can educate the public about the destructive power of these storms," he said. 'Use a telephoto lens for gosh sakes. The network said though Betts was hurt, he and the car's two other occupants were wearing safety belts and were able to walk away from the banged-up vehicle. The Samaras' and Young were pursuing an EF3 tornado as it bore down on a metropolitan area of more than 1 million people. 'That's a very unwise thing to do because it's the absolute worst place you can be during a tornado.'. Some of my colleagues stayed, where there is a basement. These conditions being a tornado being the widest in history (with only one other tornado in recorded history coming close to the same size) and the abnormal path the tornado took.
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